Fire Emblem i know im late but happy anniversary to fe3h!! |
- i know im late but happy anniversary to fe3h!!
- I have to do this! Time-skip Marianne GBA styled portrait
- Surprise.png ( Eunnieverse )
- Chrom got distracted patrolling the fields. (I commissioned Admikaart Over for this drawing link in comments)
- When Garreg Mach Resumes Classes this Fall
- Blue Skies and a Battle [OC]
- I drew Marisa from Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
- I don't know about you, but I think it's time we stopped associating Fates' cast with it being a bad one when it's quite the opposite
- Shadows of Valentia Live Wallpaper Edit
- (Fake) Concept Art for FE17
- I'll soar away
- This is a day late, but here's a sketch of Kagero, done for me at last year's Atlanta Comic Con, for her birthday! Happy Belated Birthday, Kagero!
- i drew tina. theif? healer? whynot both
- I drew modern Charlotte!
- The Daily Life of My 10 Merged Marth #7
- |OC| Such a Talkative Man, Aren't you Professor?
- [Original Art] The Spirited Sword, Shuuda
- Seiros cosplay [MarthCosplay&Art]
- TFW your game freezes at the very last possible moment during the ninja hell chapter on lunatic
- Nintendo didn’t acknowledge FE3H’s first anniversary
- My new Fire Emblem Shrine! (Post-War Artwork by /u/SilverArtemisMoon)
- The 3H cast: get busted
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| When Garreg Mach Resumes Classes this Fall Posted: 27 Jul 2020 09:35 AM PDT
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| I drew Marisa from Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones Posted: 27 Jul 2020 10:46 AM PDT
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| Posted: 27 Jul 2020 06:02 PM PDT This is kind of a risky post for me given I'm not adding the Unpopular Opinion disclaimer here, but I still wanna get my thoughts out there for better or worse. Fire Emblem Fates has, for good and ill, left a colossal mark on the series up to the present, and has influenced the direction the series went after Fates in several ways - namely, Echoes and 3H trying to distance itself from Fates. While I'm of the opinion it's not a bad game in the slightest, it's a very controversial one, to the point the hate of the game on this Reddit never really stopped and you were never really "allowed" to express enjoyment of the game or be swarmed in a flurry of negative downvotes. I tried making a post misguidedly trying to express my enjoyment of Conquest's story in the post, and man, that didn't end well given how bitter the fandom was with Fates. I get disappointment, but I don't think that's an excuse to harass fans who do like the game, and it was genuinely kind of ridiculous you couldn't talk constructively about the game without encountering people who merely parroted off of the bitter state the community was in. Officially, I'm not here to talk about that, but on some level I must: Fates' biggest reason for being such a maelstrom topic among fans in the fandom that'd they'd attack on sight anyone who liked the game was because of one thing: the story. Intelligent Systems hyped up Fates pre-2016 as a return to form for the series in it's narrative storytelling, which seems laughable now, but it was what they promised given the disillusionment some fans had with Awakening. Needless to say, it didn't work out altogether, and for a variety of reasons the story has turned out far less than people would've liked. Enough so that Echoes and 3H's emphasis on story first as opposed to gameplay seems to be a reaction to Fates' controversy and unjust status as "the black sheep" in the fandom (something I may cover another day, but given it's been done before I won't exactly bother). However, while I completely understand the frustration fans had with the story, many (and I mean many) people took that criticism and ran with it regarding the cast. I remember a post on this very sub-Reddit that basically holds Shura's quote of "bad characters like us" being taken out of context because "Fates bad, upvote me guys!". Hell, that wasn't just an exclusionary example; thousands of fans have taken to the internet to bitch about how Fates cast was bad and one-note and what have you. Now, while I personally liked Fates' story for all it's many issues, I get why people dislike it. However, what I don't agree with is the idea Fates' cast is at all bad. In fact, I'm going to say it up front: In my opinion, Fire Emblem Fates has one of the best casts in the entire series. Now I'm not going to say they're at all three-dimensional like Three Houses' cast is (though to be fair, that's especially hard to beat), but I'd go as so far as to say Fates' cast is easily among the best in the series, up there with Tellius even, as it's just full of characters that I genuinely do feel deserves a chance in the spotlight more than anything. Now I can definitely hear the "but Fates has a bad story, there's no way it's characters would be good on that front!" statements, and while I don't disagree, keep in mind that just because a game has a bad story doesn't necessarily mean they have a bad cast. By extension, a game with a good story, more rarely, may have a bad cast, and it's the story itself that drives this onward. We're so used to associating bad writing with both storytelling and characterization that it can definitely appear one-and-the-same to us. Thing is, though, Fates was handled by multiple writers with a different vision, and just by bringing up some of the supports I will use as evidence, I'd go as so far as to say the writing for the supports is much better than the writing for the story, enough so that I'd argue the better writers worked on the supports while the weaker ones worked on the story. The results kind of speak for themselves given it shows instances like Support Xander being extremely likable and Story Xander feeling at odds to his support variants, but I'd say it's true nonetheless: there's a major disconnect between story and support writing teams, and I think that puts Fates' in a unique position relative to other games with a bad story in that the cast is actually very strong, and arguably makes up to some degree for the bad storytelling. Now, you'll probably think of characters in Fates that you associate with good, and a lot of you probably would think Nyx. The pseudo-loli fortune teller in Conquest's route, Nyx shot to fame because of Ghast Station's video on her, and she's basically one of the only characters I see talked about universally positively regarding characters. Otherwise, though, there's plenty of complaints of every other character in Fates being tropey and forgettable, when it's just one thing that distinguishes Nyx from other examples in Fates' cast: Nyx had exposure on a larger scale. Most of Fates' cast did not. Fates has the problem of having a really, really good cast, but thing is, it's locked away behind a litany of supports. And to illustrate the point I seek to make in this essay, I'll give you three examples of supports of what I mean. To start them off, we have Arthur and Azura. Now Azura's relatively more well liked in the fandom for being, well, waifu material, but even she gets a lot of slack (rightfully so) for being Ms. Exposition, while Arthur is a character that is seen as "Mr. Funny Justice Man," and not much else. I'll go on and say that's such a disservice to both characters that it isn't even funny. The C-Support opens with Arthur enamored by Azura's singing, to which Azura later inquires why he's gawking. To which this exchange happens:
Now this ought to make apparent from the get-go there's more to Arthur than there seems to be, and that he knew Azura in the past. This is covered in their next support line, which is as follows:
This already says a lot in so little. Arthur revealed he encountered Azura when she was still a child at Nohr, to which Arthur - by intuition alone - realized something bad was probably going to happen to the girl if the guards realized she left on her own and spoke up to say he was the one who brought her out, lying to the guards about the ordeal. The end result was Arthur getting whipped for it, but the event still kept to Arthur to the present. When she asks him the next rank why he did this:
This is the point I began to legitimately respect Arthur as a character, and actually like Azura considering her status as a exposition bot in the main story. Arthur has such a humble background and yet he quickly showed he's not all talk and genuinely means everything that drives him; even given the comical mishaps that happens to him every day, he continues fighting to do what's right, regardless of how hopeless it may seem. That speaks to me on several levels, and it's capped off by the adorable S-Support:
...goddamnit, Arthur. Never stop being amazing. So yeah, this is the point I fucking grew to adore Arthur. He's a charming character in his own right who doesn't have a complex character arc like, say, Sylvain does, but he gets the job done and is a likable character all the while. This is something Fates does very well, and something I'll return to later: you don't need to be a third-dimensional character to be a great one, and Fates consistently manages to make some of its more outlandish characters seem super human the more you get to know them. Which brings me to my second example straight out of Nohr: my personal favorite M!Corrin support, his one with Charlotte. Really, both genders fit the bill, but there's a reason why I picked M!Corrin, because boy howdy there's a lot to that that truly gave me respect for him - and perhaps controversially, why he's the Lord I like the most, even given their highly iffy character story writing. So anyways, to start with the C-Support and B-Support: nothing much happens that isn't that different from other supports. In consecutive order, the C-Support...
And the B-Support:
This support starts off with the glance beforehand that Charlotte is up to her usual tricks - and really, she is. But this B-Support has her open up with her realizing her pay's far shorter than usual, and in her rage, she punched down a tree - just in front of Corrin, who went back with the courtesy of getting Charlotte her lunch box. As she storms off when she realizes she can't keep up the act, Corrin realizes she's dropped something on the floor, which prompts him next support to...
I'll come back to this in a bit, trust me - it'll become a lot more poignant once you actually know the context of why she puts up so many walls.
So, I figured I'd save it for later writing this, but this showcases something consistent with Charlotte I'll cover in a bit: she has abysmal self-esteem. Why, I'll save for the S-Support, but Charlotte struggled all her life coming to terms with her identity and feels the need to put up a mask around others. The highlighted text from Corrin also showcases why I'd come to like them a lot in general - they don't judge or are offended when people feel the need to put up walls, and can actually be quite a bit intuitive in general. This is later shown in another support with Corrin and Xander, which I'd cover here but goddamnit, there's no time! Continuing on:
This already says a lot about Charlotte's character, so I'll just borrow a segment straight out of her support with Xander: she was born to a family of peasants, and was generally held in total disdain for her tomboyish qualities, to the point the only thing she had were her parents. Nobody was there, and it drove Charlotte into thinking she had to asset her feminine qualities to be liked. She's in such need of validation that she feels the need to constantly put up a mask with everyone and anyone, except those she feels comfortable or needless to keep the mask up. This really spoke home to me given I've felt that I needed to shield myself from others, but it really illustrated one reason among others why I love her so much. As for the rest of the support:
So yeah, that's the A-Support, and boy did it make me really like Charlotte and Corrin a ton; Corrin's portrayed as far more compassionate and willing to listen than his usual naive story self, while Charlotte's own self-image problems are covered as well... and by extension, brought to a full conclusion in what I'd argue is by far the best S-Support in the game:
We open up with - as soon as Corrin opening up to Charlotte by confessing - her acting extremely pensive, and her assuming at first he's mocking her. This illustrates a major fear on her end of being seen as lesser or just being rejected outright when she wants to be accepted - qualities I can admire. This continues when Charlotte lets down her guard for a bit to finally talk it out with Corrin.
Charlotte asks why the hell Corrin would choose her... and Corrin responds with the quote that single-handedly made me love him regardless of his bad story portrayal:
This line. This goddamned line. This is why I grew to love Corrin so much, even given they're bad story writing. It really showed to me someone I hold a lot of respect for given he ended up, by first instinct with someone trying to push him away, help that person and be a friend. And completely without thinking better than them. That's a major reason why I adore him, and it's the support afterwards that caps it off:
Fuck, I'm getting all weepy. This, this is why I love Fates' cast so much. For implicit and explicit gems like these being there if you choose to look and do your research. Nyx got exposure because she got a Support Science - what's stopping anyone from looking up supports as good as these on YouTube? Now while I feel Fates definitely has some dud supports (*cough* Peri *cough*), I think a lot of them at the same time are just... really, really good. Generally-speaking, same-sex supports have a better track record than opposite-sex because quality vs. quantity, but other great supports I recommend are Keaton/Velouria, Kaden/Charlotte, Xander/Corrin, Xander/Leo, Elise/Azura, Arthur/Benny, Benny/Charlotte, Benny/Corrin... the list goes on. Conquest really shines when it comes to characters. But that doesn't mean Hoshido is bad either! It has a lot of good supports as well, some funny, some just straight up well-written, and I'll bring up an example for two characters I feel are often written off as one note or just straight-up forgettable: the father-son duo of Hinata and Hisame. Now, Hinata's known mostly as the dudebro samurai with bad speed and Hisame... well, Pickle Lord, and while I don't deny that, I do feel there's some really good supports bound to be with them - including each other. To start off, with their C-Support:
This already opens up interestingly enough: Hinata's sword name is Hisamaru and... who else's name starts with Hisa? It's explored quite a bit, but it already shows two characteristics of the two: Hisame's tenacity yet observant skills, and Hinata being quite, well, himbo like, lol. Anyway, continuing the support:
...who the heck uses stinky cheeses as an expletive? Anyways, this already showcases Hinata as a character who is clearly sentimental about things, and Hisame... well, being the skeptic he is, immediately questions this practice - and in the ensuing bickering, Hisame somehow comes off as more of an adult than his father, and Hinata storms off. This ends up reappearing in their B-Support, where Hisame talks to Hinata about the sword:
...fucking hell, that's just sweet. This already opens up several things about the two: given Hinata's, ahem... moment to himself, and Hisame noticing it, it shows Hisame as generally someone who's far more in tune with things than he'd be normally, to the point this really reflects his story nature as "the grumpy old man who's just a kid" thing. It's really charming and shows there's more to him than just, well, pickles; Hinata also showcases that he does well and truly love his son something special, to the point he's as much of a sap as to name his blade after his son... which is really, really sweet, and showed how much Hinata thinks of his friends and family. The support continues either way:
I don't know about you guys, but I goddamn love these two already. Already better than most father-son pairings in the game as-is. Anyways, we get to the A-Support, which... well, honestly, not much happens as a result other than Hinata asking if Hisame couldn't name his sword to have a matching pair:
...okay, I need to remind myself to forge a Hinamaru sword for Hisame. So anyways, there you have it: three supports I genuinely did love to a varying degrees. However, I figured I'd use these examples not to showcase them individually, but as a collective strength Fates has as a whole: a cast that isn't hyper-complex like 3H is, but manages to do what they do and be likable in spite of it with well-written supports. Now, there's definitely some bad supports out there, and I can't say I'm as well-versed in Hoshidan supports as I am Nohrian ones. But I still strongly say without a doubt that there's more to Fates' cast than just them being one-note stock characters, as they have a lot more to offer if you choose to look up the better supports they have. This is a problem I think cansolve a lot of the characters in not just Fates, but series wide: there's some really, really good supports for most characters in the series proper, and it's why I always try to look up what the character entails before I make a final judgement. And really, the fact Fates' cast is associated with being a lesser one is just unfair overall. Anyways, this essay went on for a lot longer than I wanted it to initially, so I just wanna say thanks to anyone who stuck with me to read this. Fates is my second favorite game in the series for not just the gameplay, but the cast - and there's plenty of others I've left out as well! So keep in mind that you need to know about a character in complete detail before you knock them, both the good and bad; you'll be surprised with what you may find, and it's the fact Fates has so much good to it in its supports that always makes me come back. Either way, thanks for reading. Please share your thoughts in the comment section, and I apologize if I dawdled on for too long. [link] [comments] | ||
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| i drew tina. theif? healer? whynot both Posted: 27 Jul 2020 04:53 PM PDT
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| The Daily Life of My 10 Merged Marth #7 Posted: 27 Jul 2020 11:12 AM PDT
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| |OC| Such a Talkative Man, Aren't you Professor? Posted: 27 Jul 2020 06:43 AM PDT
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| [Original Art] The Spirited Sword, Shuuda Posted: 27 Jul 2020 08:05 AM PDT
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| Seiros cosplay [MarthCosplay&Art] Posted: 27 Jul 2020 04:10 AM PDT
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| TFW your game freezes at the very last possible moment during the ninja hell chapter on lunatic Posted: 27 Jul 2020 04:18 PM PDT
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| Nintendo didn’t acknowledge FE3H’s first anniversary Posted: 27 Jul 2020 01:10 PM PDT I know they have other games and products they want to promote, but are you seriously not going to acknowledge the 15th best selling game on the Nintendo Switch? Hell, I bet it would generate more sales due to several people in the comments asking "is it worth it?" followed by several replies of "yes." In summary: I am sad. [link] [comments] | ||
| My new Fire Emblem Shrine! (Post-War Artwork by /u/SilverArtemisMoon) Posted: 27 Jul 2020 11:13 AM PDT
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| Posted: 27 Jul 2020 12:21 PM PDT There's an old saying that likes to go around "don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Well those students and staffers at Garreg Mach will find out soon that this addage is true and crime doesn't pay... Let's see what happens shall we? Black Eagles:
Blue Lions:
Golden Deer:
The Ashen Wolves:
The Church:
And there you have it. Justice is blind and nobody is safe from her judgement. So behave yourselves kids and instead of doing bad things instead just get excited for the next time I randomly decide to make another "Cast of 3h as" thread. Have fun y'all [link] [comments] |
![Blue Skies and a Battle [OC]](https://a.thumbs.redditmedia.com/8w3l9QFH8EwwBRvMzprcxChU-7bQy-6DasQ4VMweuK4.jpg "Blue Skies and a Battle [OC]")
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