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    Fire Emblem Everyone Plays Fire Emblem - Week of January 26, 2020


    Everyone Plays Fire Emblem - Week of January 26, 2020

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 02:53 PM PST

    Welcome to EPFE! This thread is a casual space that can be used to discuss any Fire Emblem playthroughs you have going on. Unit screenshots, general impressions, frustrations... gameplay stuff that would otherwise be removed as a standalone post under Rule 8 is fair game here.

    While you're free to ask for advice here, specific questions might get better responses in our General Question Thread.

    And as always, remember to tag your spoilers!

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    When you solo with Byleth

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 08:28 AM PST

    Sylvain Brings Sexy Back to Smash

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 10:24 AM PST

    Anger and Regret

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 10:23 AM PST

    I finished making Byleth's Academy DLC uniform today!

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 04:00 PM PST

    Battle for everyone's souls ft. Professor Byleth

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 09:14 AM PST

    A sketch of one of my favorite supports ✨

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 11:01 AM PST

    Three Houses- Adult Designs (5 years after Epilogue)

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 02:02 PM PST

    Chibi Marianne - [ OC Fanart ]

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 01:24 PM PST

    Redrawn Eliwood and Fiora's ending CG and colored it stained glass-style.

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 02:14 PM PST

    Dire Emblem: Awakening - Chapter 12.1

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 08:12 AM PST

    A long analysis of the many misconceptions people make about Bernadetta's character/characterization (or how IS's approach was much better than people think AND STOP COMPARING HER TO MARIANNE ALREADY DANG IT!)

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 04:11 PM PST

    So. I was meaning to do "In defense of Bernie" post but /r/BobbyYukitsuki beat me to it. So I can't call my post that anymore, but his was a higly personal take on the handling of Bernadetta's writing, mostly about taking the "relatable" meme and showing it's more than a meme, that the portrayal of her trauma and anxiety are more close to reality than people think.

    And spurned by this particularly insensitive and disrespectful post I've found on another FE subreddit, I've decided to add to this, by teckling some other issues in general. Or... all of them? Welp.

    Here's what I plan to cover in order.

    • 1 - Why people's claims that she's a unrealistic portrayal of shyness completely miss the point of Bernadetta and why most people shouldn't be able to relate to her (which is alright!)

    • 2 - Why comparing her to Marianne shows you've missed the point of Bernie, or Marianne, if not BOTH of them.

    • 3 - The usage of humor in Bernadetta's writing, why and when it is fine, and how IS pulled a Batman Gambit on the playerbase at large with it.

    • 4 - How her C-supports are all samey, but at the same time are NOT, and how important those differences are.

    • 5 - How her reaction(s) to her S-support with Byleth are completely understandable once you put yourself in Bernie's shows and analyse the situation she was in.

    • 6 - How Bernadetta's character arc isn't static at all, but also isn't resolved on-screen and that's not just fine but exactly how it should be.

    Some of these might blend together a little but I'll try to separate them as best as possible. This will be a long post, and I'll reuse the bullet points so you guys can know when I'm officially switching from one to another and I'll leave some parts in bold so you can better keep track of this post or better skim it... this will be long and I know many will do that. I wish I could just make this a video like Faerghast's Support Science series.

    • 1 - About Shyness.

    The first and perhaps most important thing I have to say here, is that looking at Bernadetta as a mere "shy and anxious shut-in" is incredibly myoptic. These lens put shyness and anxiety at the forefront of Bernadetta's issues.

    This is objectively incorrect and leads to an objectivelly incorrect interpretation of her character if you start from that angle. Bernadetta's core, fundamental issue, is how her father's abuse and indoctrination completely warped her psyche and led to severe anxiety. This is what is wrong with her.

    We never get that much detail about her backstory. She shares some with Byleth and Dorothea while subtly disclosing other aspects in other supports, and while it's not painting a clear picture I think it gives us just enough to connect the dots, since she gives us the most importants point in a broad ways...

    The biggest of which is that her father's abuse boils down to indoctrination: the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.

    Bernadetta, from a very young age, has been taught that her thoughts don't matter, her opinions don't matter, that her hobbies don't matter, her personality doesn't matter. The only thing about herself she's been taught is important is that she's a noble with a crest and that she's going to be a married off and expected to be a submissive doormat. Her only worth is as a throphy wife. Outside of that she's, as said in Leonie (B), "completely useless". She agrees with her father.

    (Though it's worth mentioning she does have confidence on her cooking. I suppose it's easy to convince yourself you're good at it if you can simply taste what you did, though)

    Her father tried to "train" her, and Bernadetta constantly failed to meet his expectations. She discloses that she tried her best but was only met with harsh criticism about everything she did or did not do. What this does to Bernadetta, is that over time she was conditioned to always expect negative feedback for her every action. It's why she always preemptively assumes her thoughts and actions are going to be taken very badly, constantly assumes people will respond to her in certain ways (always negatively).

    She often thinks people will hurt her. It's very easy to infer that physical violence was one of Count Varley's most used training methods if that's what Bernadetta's instincts defaults to. More importantly, remember: like her or not her father does have a stake on her life. It's important to him. But it's not important to ANYONE else... so if her father used to beat her up and treat her so badly despite her importance, what about these other people who don't actually need her in their lives? This is why Bernadetta fears being killed. It's the next logical step from her fractured mind's PoV.

    The final piece we've been given is that Bernie found a way out: isolation. Within the confines of her room, Bernie is safe. Her father can't harm her. She can practice her many hobbies without fear of backlash, though without confidence that she's any good at them. The outside is scary and dangerous place where she can get hurt... but inside? It's her sanctuary. This also explains how she just doesn't keep her thoughts inside very well. She's used to being alone, which made her not care about developing a filter. Or a volume knob at that.

    The consequences of her abuse are what lead to what looks like just shyness and anxiety when she's exposed to the outside world... but in reality is just raw fear. Shy people shouldn't feel like Bernie represents them because Bernie isn't even TRYING to. (I'm not even sure you can say Bernie is shy honestly. The anxiety is defintiviely there tho.)

    So it's alright if you don't relate to Bernie. That, does not make her unrealistic. Trauma is something that has very specific roots and effects on a case-by-case basis. You shouldn't be able to relate to Bernie normally once you look at her deeply, not unless you underwent similar treatment or are empathetic enough to fill in the gaps with your own heart gods that was cheesy

    • 2 - About Marianne.

    This just pissed me off. Majorly. (The caps on the title was just meant to be a hook tho)

    I LOVE Marianne as well, second best girl right behind Bernie to me. But comparing the two just shows you don't understand the characters at all. Marianne is also a complex character, but I can't spend the time she deserves to explore her psyche. So instead let's focus on the biggest differences between the two, focusing on Marianne since I already laid out the basis of Bernie's personality traits above.

    Marianne suffers from depression, which is rooted in how she believes her crest is cursed and results in misfortune for everyone around her... and THAT was the coping mechanism her younger self found to deal with her parents's fate. Marianne isn't a recluse. She doesn't fear people, she fears what could happen to people if they got too close to her (crest). Marianne thinks she's better off dead so she doesn't cause harm anymore.

    Both of them became awkward and bad at socialization because of their issues, but these issues are fundamenteally different. And Marianne's issues issue does have a (starting) solution: she discovers the truth about her crest and dispels her own beliefs about her cursed existance (and maybe you could argue her Paralogue is optional but with her character arc I simply don't accept it). With the root of her depression proven to be false, Marianne can find the path to recovery much more easily. It's one single, big chain holding her back.

    This is a very, very different character from Bernadetta, The two traits they do share: they avoid socialization, which makes their social skills rot and causes anxiety when they do have to interact with people. Beyond that, I don't think it's fair for them to be compared, and to me, there's no ground to say "Marianne is Bernadetta done right". It undermines them both. They can stand on their own without being compared to the other

    • 3 - The comedy

    I'll start with something perhaps controversial here. Bernadetta's issues are not funny at all. This is mental illness we are talking about. But her reactions and her thought process CAN be funny and I think these can stand separatedly. Her scenes aren't framed around making fun of her issues, but merely use the conclusions she reaches and her hasty decisions to bring humor.

    Whether that crosses a line or not, it's up to you personally.

    In universe that's how the comedy is handled. None of the characters think Bernie freaking out is funny. Some think it's sad and want to help her, some think it's annoying and don't want to deal with it... Yet every support she has, her partners don't find her issues fun. Almost every support partner tries to help her, and doesn't poke fun at her. Even HUBERT, who openly expresses she amuses him at the end of their C+ support (because sacring people amuses that lovable jerk), goes out of his way to not scare her.

    But there's one big, a VERY big exception. There is one character that finds Bernie amusing.

    Byleth. You.

    In their A support you have a dialogue prompt where both options are you teasing Bernie. She immediately catches on that you thought it was funny and Bernadetta calls you out on it and your only options are a half-hearted apology or to deny her wish.

    A real friend, someone who actually cares for her, wouldn't purposefully put forth a scenario just to watch her squirm in amusement. She says as much and only then Byleth reletns, this time with no second options.

    I just think this was a fantastic moment, playing with all the out-of-universe humor building up on her other chains to throw it back at the player like that.

    Now there's also the matter of their S-Support, and I'll get to it later. To close out on this point, it says a lot about Part 1!Ferdinand that Bernie was more scared of him endlessly pestering him like he did with Edelgard than, well, death.

    And on Edelgard, that's where Bernie's biggest over-the-top moments happen that don't involve a creepy murderous vampire boy... it doesn't feel very well written to me. One could maybe justfy it that Bernie thinks so highly of Edelgard (as seen in their C support) that negative feedback from her hits harder than from other people. But I just think this is a bad chain all-around and hate how it deprived us of Dorodetta A support. (Or a whole chain with Marianne instead).

    • 4 - C Supports

    This is a quicker one.

    I totally understand the gripes people have about the same-y supports. And I agree... but I think this is fine from a story perspective if not needed. Bernie hasn't got much reason to believe she's safe around these people.

    I can understand why this can be irritating, but that doesn't necessarily makes these supports bad. Bernie dominates these early supports but they aren't "samey" when you look at the other party.

    Bernie follows a consistent behavior, yet the important part if how the OTHER person reacts to her. Those C-supports all set the tone for how the chains play out and how her partners deal with her issues, which is different for each of them.

    Hubert sees her reaction is very violent, so he gives her as much space as she needs. Petra tries to coax Bernie in being predator rather than Prey. Dorothea is the true player avatar who feels the need to protecc at all costs. Linhardt doesn't care about her issues and doesn't try to change her. Edelgard lacks the empathy and patience to tread carefully and constantly makes Bernie blow up. Caspar is Caspar. Alois doesn't trigger Bernie's anxiety, and so on.

    So I think those supports, while samey in the surface, hold key differences. Berndetta herself is used as a distraction here, and what you should be paying attention to is the other party generally speaking!

    • 5 - The S-Support

    This scene sounds completely nuts on paper, and like it throws away all the groth Bernie did. Before, I agreed with that, but upon a deeper look at her character I changed my mind.

    To start off, let's remember... the start. Most people go immediately to the "please don't kill me" part but there were things before that. Bernadetta was freaking out and about and grow reclusive again because the war ended, which meant she'd have to return to her parents as she no longer had a purpose as a warrior or any other excuse to hide from them.

    Most of all, her father. Returning to one's abuser... that's a terrifying thing for anyone in her position, and she begs the professor for help!

    Byleth's answer to her pleas? He just drags Bernadetta all the way from her safe sanctuary to a forgotten corner in the other side of the monastery, presumidly in complete silence

    Bernie was already on a bad spot here from the start, what would go through her head during this trip? It's not a one-second transition like it is for the player. Considering her anxiety, she'd surely be mentally going over her previous actions to find out what she did wrong, likely consider all the things together rather than just one event (same deal as Edelgard's A)... which would naturally put her even more on the edge!

    When the Goddess Tower comes up, a normal person might assume a confession. But even before we think "Bernie isn't normal", she already tried to to hint at her feelings during their A support. And didn't get a satsifactory reply. At that point in time Bernie isn't convinced Byleth actually is in love with her, and between her sense of self-worth being bad as it is (however improved it is after multiple other supports) and her nervous state before the scene even began... a positive outcome isn't even a possibility in her mind

    ...That's not the only problem I've seen people have with this support. The actual reply to the confession is one.

    Bernie wants to go back to reclusion. Does that invalidate her growth? Not necessarily.

    Bernadetta can handle being outside, she's better at talking to people and at handling her nerves. Yet that doesn't need to make her NOT want to be in her room, where it's still a safe haven for her. Bernadetta isn't cured, and we'll get back to that.

    The important part is not what Bernie wants. It's what she's willing to do for people, it's what makes her selfless rather than selfish With the professor at her side, Bernadetta feels she's able to go anywhere, everywhere, and she WILL accompany him. To the very ends of earth as seen in their CF ending in particular too.

    Bernadetta can do it, just not alone. And that's she's willing to do that if asked to, it's real growth! And that leads into the final point.

    • 6 - Bernadetta's Growth.

    A common issue people have with Bernadetta is her growth as a character. The she does not grow at all.

    I believe this is just outright wrong.

    In part 1, Bernadetta is a mere student. She was kidnapped into the academy, and if she doesn't comply with the rules (like say, showing up for missions and classes), she might get kicked out. Or killed--this is Bernie we're talking about, and the church doesn't try to hide its violent responses to treason too...

    She, thus, is forced to go along with the events of Part 1. She doesn't want to be there at all. This is why her 100% HP quote is a simple, fearful "Oh no..."

    By the end of Part 1 she does start coming out of her shell. By that point she should've gone thorugh many of her B supports, and there's the memorable scene after the Kronya incident where she faces her fears and goes completely out of her way to pay respect to a certain character who isn't even related to her. The cemetery is quite far from her room. She's the ONLY member of the student cast that does it.

    Personally, that's when I knew she deserved the ring. But that's me.

    What's important is Part 2. Bernadetta is no longer forced to do anything. Why is she not in her room? Well, put her into a battle and she will tell you: "I do this for all of us!"

    In order to protect her friends, the ones that are basically her actual family at that point, she's willing to throw herself at a war. Even if she isn't sure she can contribute much, she will try to help them stay safe. This is perfectly pictured in her Paralogue with Petra

    And finally comes the future beyond the war. Bernadetta no longer has a war to drive her forward, but if she must go out to support those she loves, even if it's not in battle, she will. We see that in her endings with Byleth, Edelgard and even Hubert very well. And if she has to oppose those she loves to ensure their safety, well, ask CF!Felix how well defying the Bern turned out for him. She can do that too!

    But her issues aren't gone forever. Her trauma is very deep rooted, and it takes extremely supportive partners to ever break Bernie out of it. Or rather, supportive partners that have the time to do that, as I'm sure Ferdinand would have been just as successful as Raphael if not waylaid by his duty as the noblest of nobles, plus it made all the difference between CF and other Byleths.

    Even then, it takes time and dedicated training in Raphael's ending, or it takes another war in CF!Byleth's ending (and to me that's implicit for Hubert's ending). It's not an easy thing to grow past, and it's sad that Bernie's character arc doesn't conclude truthfully like, say, Marianne's.

    But all the same, at least to me, it would feel cheap if she had been fully cured just like that.

    ...

    Anyway, that's my two cents on that, and my many cents on Bernie as a whole. I really enjoyed this character and I hope that the people that didn't, maybe, just maybe, would be willing to look at her character again if they read so far.

    Peace out! And thanks to anyone that read this behemoth, as usual from me!

    (And Bernie gang, don't forget to vote for our girl in CYL4! We may not have this hype next year!)

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    Marianne with hair down, aka basically Rinea

    Posted: 25 Jan 2020 09:29 PM PST

    Byleth has something to ask of you

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 01:36 PM PST

    Byleth asks the inhabitants of Garreg Mach, "why did the chicken cross the road?"

    Black Eagles

    Edelgard: It was a necessary sacrifice.

    Hubert: Perhaps there was something in their water. How unfortunate.

    Ferdinand: I am Ferdinand von Aegir and I will save all chickens trying to cross roads!

    Dorothea: Perhaps the noble roosters were acting too cocky.

    Bernadetta: I-I'm sure the chicken was running away from the other chickens.

    Caspar: I don't know, but I would like to try fighting a chicken.

    Petra: This is Fodlan joke?

    Linhardt: I suppose the chickens are going home to roost. Wait... How much trouble am I in for napping through class all week?

    Blue Lions

    Dimitri: I wish no chickens had to endure such a meaningless sacrifice.

    Dedue: ...

    Felix: Are you implying I spar with a chicken!?

    Mercedes: You're quite the joker, Professor.

    Ashe: To get to the other side. Am I right?

    Annette: singing Chickens, chickens, crossing the road. Crossing the road all day long~

    Sylvain: if M!Byleth: Are you inviting me to go picking up chicks together?

    If F!Byleth! I'm sure you'd cross the road to be with me, eh Professor?

    Ingrid: If you're having issues with a certain rooster, I'll keep an eye on him for you.

    Golden Deer

    Claude: Heh. Say.., What sort of reaction do you think we'd get if I let a bunch of chickens loose around the monastery? You in?

    Lorenz: I, Lorenz Hellman Gloucester, do not answer such common questions.

    Hilda: What are you doing around smelly old chickens?

    Raphael: If the chicken comes here, I'm ready to eat it!

    Lysithea: I don't have time for irrelevant questions.

    Ignatz: I can picture it! I think it would make a nice painting.

    Marianne: Um... Well... Maybe it... just wanted to...

    Leonie: Jeralt asked me the same thing. I still don't know the answer.

    Church of Seiros

    Sothis: I shall never understand your desire to ask such inane questions.

    Rhea: May the goddess watch over the chicken.

    Seteth: I have insufficient information on which to base an answer.

    Flayn: That's a very, very, very old joke. I would know.

    Manuela: I bet that chicken is having more luck than I'm having right now.

    Hanneman: Alas, avian ethology is not my forte.

    Cyril: Maybe the chicken is busy.

    Alois: What a fowl joke!

    Catherine: I don't understand what Lady Rhea sees in you.

    Shamir: No idea.

    Gilbert: Forgive me, for I could not save the chicken.

    Jeralt: Kid, you got too much time on your hands.

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    Hanneman looks really great without his coat.

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 05:23 AM PST

    I drew a lil Hapi

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 01:52 PM PST

    FE3H characters ranked by driving skills and habits

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 02:15 PM PST

    My friend u/luyang_phoebe and I wrote up a summary of driving skills of 3H characters if they were transported to a modern world. A simplified tier list is listed here.

     

    Black Eagles:

    • Edelgard: Actually has great driving skills but Hubert doesn't allow her to drive. Car keys were stolen by Hubert on multiple occasions, frustrating her. Would not yield to other drivers unless forced to.

    • Hubert: Lady Edelgard's valet. Creepily threatens other drivers and current driver (if passenger). Steals Edelgard's keys to prevent her from driving. Would never offer to help if you're in trouble; be glad that he didn't run you over when delivering Edelgard somewhere.

    • Ferdinand von Aegir: Excellent driver. Has multiple luxury cars that he varies on occasion. Used to lend his cars to his classmates when he first enrolled in Garreg Mach but because they have since caused severe damages to the cars, he now drives everyone everywhere except Edelgard (under the threat of Hubert). If married to Dorothea: plays only Dorothea's albums on repeat, annoying his passengers.

    • Bernadetta: Is terrified of everything on the road. When scared, instantly accelerates and passes everyone at 180 mph, screaming "I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!" to every driver but somehow manages to dodge everything and survive. Swears never to drive again.

    • Dorothea: Terrible driver. Hates it when Ferdinand von Aegir offers to give her a lift somewhere. THE obnoxious driver that starts 3-hour-karaoke sessions even when her passengers are asleep. Drives over the speed limit without realizing it but can easily flirt her way out of speeding tickets. Would park in your driveway and doesn't give a shit.

    • Linhardt: Passed the driving knowledge test without studying. However, he falls asleep behind the wheel and is banned from further driving. Would rather be the passenger anyways so he can nap.

    • Caspar: Road rages all the time. Honks every two seconds and often lowers windows to flip people off. Never wears the seat belt. The last person that Linhardt wants to drive him around because he can't fall asleep while Caspar's driving.

    • Petra: Reliable driver. Car is covered with decorations from Brigid. Other drivers can't understand her because of the language barrier. Misunderstands road signs. Can parallel park perfectly.

    • Jeritza: Drives a pitch black car made from some unknown metal with an eerie red glow. Excellent driving skills but no one wants to ride with him for fear of their lives. Hides sweets in his glove compartments but even ants are deterred by the creepiness and never got in.

      Blue Lions:

    • Dimitri: A law-abiding and polite driver, but tends to break everything in the car when nervous, scaring the shit out of his passengers. Stopped driving after demolishing his fourth car and is rather distraught about the subject. The model passenger who thanks his drivers with gifts. Would never backseat drive.

    • Dedue: Cautious and reliable, Dimitri's designated driver. Insists on driving only the safest car model. Keeps fresh cuttings of his flowers in his car. Remains silent all the way and doesn't play any music while driving, which may freak out first-time passengers.

    • Ingrid: Best driver in the Blue Lion house. Sympathizes with Dimitri but is frustrated by the rest of the Faerghus childhood friend squad. Designated driver for Sylvain and Felix, much to her displeasure, but happy to give other Blue Lions rides. Plays audiobooks while driving. Was advised by Dorothea to decorate her car but ignored the advice.

    • Sylvain: Great driving skills, would be one of the best if he'd stop flirting with every moving thing on the road. Often misses exits on highways. Car is covered with anime girl stickers, much to his classmates' disgust. Banned from driving by Ingrid.

    • Felix: DRIVES 50 MILES ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE IT'S COOL. CHALLENGES EVERYONE ON THE ROAD TO A DUEL BEHIND THE WHEELS BECAUSE HE CAN. NEVER YIELDS BECAUSE YIELDING IS FOR WEAKLINGS. WOULD RUN OVER YOU IF YOU TAKE TOO LONG TO CROSS AND NEVER APOLOGIZE (but why do you care cause you're already dead). The interior AND the exterior of his car are decorated with swords. Plays opera in his car.

    • Annette: Sings to the radio when driving until she hits something, which is every few seconds. Will bump into everything in the most unimaginable ways, even when it's not physically possible. Accidently locked herself in the car with child-lock multiple times.

    • Mercedes: Would be a great driver if she were not a scatterbrain. Locked her keys in the ignition multiple times, burning out entire tanks of fuel. Used to keep homemade cookies in her car until she had a nasty ant incident with ants and had to stop. Somehow still not the worst person to ask for a ride.

    • Ashe: Law-abiding and reliable driver. However, he is timider than any Fodlan driver, except for Bernadetta. Also plays audiobooks in his car. Cannot drive at night for his fear of ghosts. The person to ask for help if you locked your car keys in your car.

    • Rodrigue: Excellent and law-abiding driver, drove the Faerghus childhood friends squad to classes when they were kids. Constantly wondering where Felix got his "highway to hell" driving tendency from. Has to bail Felix out of jail every time only to have Felix yell at him.

      Golden Deer:

    • Claude: Great driver but his license was rescinded after he illegally remodeled his car to allow it to backflip and go way beyond the speed limit. Banned from further action by the Church of Seiros, but rumor has it that he still sneaks out of his dorm at night to drive to "vibe" while playing dubstep.

    • Lorenz Hellman Gloucester: "A car has to be fabulously polished to match the car owner's unparalleled taste and overarching elegance. Just like my appreciation of tea is an indication of tRUe nOBiLiTY, I cannot stress enough just how appalling that you peasants ignore the maintenance of such a magnificent beast and… Hey, where are you going?" Drives the most expensive luxury cars.

    • Hilda: Too lazy to get her driver's license. Would hitch a ride with anybody (except for the highway-to-hell squad) and usually gets it for free. Would offer advice on how to decorate the car to the driver.

    • Marianne: Too depressed to get her license. Rides Dorte everywhere for emotional support, and also because of it's more environmentally friendly. The only person that is willing to ride with the highway-to-hell squad for reasons she keeps secret.

    • Lysithea: Poor driving skills but would never admit it. ROAD RAGES when passed by anyone on the road. Was stopped by Church of Seiros' officers under suspicion of underage driving; the bodies of those officers were never found. Cannot drive at night but will blast anyone who points it out.

    • Leonie: Excellent as long as she doesn't drink. Only drives second-hand cars that are energy-efficient for cost concerns. Isn't afraid to use the horn. Has a Jeralt bobblehead on her dash. Would challenge Byleth behind the wheels though.

    • Ignatz: Decent driver, as long as he is wearing his glasses. Once forgot his glasses and caused a multiple-car pile-up. As a timid driver who drives way lower than the speed limit, he draws ire from fellow drivers. Would never use the horn.

    • Raphael: Has difficulty fitting in a normal-sized car. Thinks the larger the car the better, only drives pickup trucks. Car is covered in scratches. Cannot parallel park. Oblivious to road rage and his physique scares off anyone challenging him to a fight.

    • Judith: Reliable behind the wheels as long as she's not drinking. THE person to ask for a ride if you're in the Golden Deer House because they lack good drivers and good cars.

      The Church of Seiros:

    • Manuela: DUIs, what else can I say. License rescinded by the Church of Seiros. Car is an absolute mess and filled with empty wine bottles.

    • Hanneman: Keeps getting distracted by his crest research and therefore one of the most oblivious drivers on the road.

    • Gilbert: Decent driver. Insists on teaching Annette how to drive but eventually gives up.

    • Catherine: Yells at everyone slower than her and loves to use her horn. Likes to backseat drive if Shamir is the driver.

    • Shamir: Great at driving but has questionable morals. Be prepared to lie on the ground for three hours if she ran you over because she ain't gonna stop and help you. Frustrated with Catherine's backseat driving.

    • Alois: Decent and reliable driver with lots of experience due to driving his family everywhere. Greets other drivers on the road with his windows down. Tells terrible jokes to his passengers and that's why people don't want to ride with him, except for Dimitri.

    • Rhea: WHO NEEDS TO DRIVE WHEN YOU CAN FLY?

    • Seteth: Best driver that you can find. Insists on driving Flayn around. Squeaky-clean driving record. Can somehow fit his car into the tiniest parking spot. Insists on re-teaching the Garreg Mach kids how to drive for fear of their safety.

    • Flayn: Actually has great driving skills and wants to get her license, but is banned from driving by Seteth. Constantly attempting to sneakily borrow a car from her friends but nobody is brave enough to risk Seteth's wrath.

    • Cyril: Never passed his driver's license test because he's illiterate.

    • Jeralt: Great driving skills, but usually drunk. Keeps alcohol in his trunk. Was Leonie's driving instructor but doesn't remember it because he was drunk.

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    Look professor, this bread has the shape of a fish!

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 05:13 PM PST

    Every time you "kill" a boss

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 05:24 PM PST

    Me: That guy was tough, but at least I don't have to fight him agai-

    Boss: I must withdraw

    Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    Tried a Claude braid with Lin's post TS hair

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 03:15 PM PST

    Well I think about this a lot

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 07:31 PM PST

    Sephiran appreciation ~ ^^

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 11:09 AM PST

    I made a cross stitch Takumi!

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 08:54 AM PST

    Drew my fav girl Marianne

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 03:19 PM PST

    The Perfection of Three Houses' Retainers

    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 05:46 PM PST

    They're children.

    That's pretty much the basis of it, but allow me to go a little deeper. Fair warning that I'm without sleep.

    Retainers

    Retainers in Fire Emblem have almost always been notably older than their lieges. Seth, Oswin, Marcus, Finn, Titania, Frederick, Gunter, etc. They have been experienced combatants that offer wisdom to our younger Lords. They seldom come so close to the age of their liege, normally because they are also a surrogate father or mother.

    As of lately, the age and role of a retainer has slowly shifted. Personally, I blame Kris, who became a retainer alongside Jagen and brought way for Robin to be seen as a pair with Chrom, then Jakob/Felicia happened as well,and with all the marriage their cowardice on letting me wanna look at people more like Reina and Gunter whe- I digress. Point is, the role of retainer's been split harder than Sonic Adventure 2's Hero and Dark stories. Even Alm suddenly had Tobin and Gray acting that way (until it became Lukas and Clive). This isn't to say there haven't been two retainers before, mind you. Marth had Jagen and Malledus. Roy had Merlinus and Marcus. Leif had Finn and... Dagdar? Eyvel? I'm gonna say Eyvel.

    In these new games though, the younger retainers are the ones that are seen as the 'most friendly' by their Lord, and the one whose words could mean the most most similar to the Robin/Chrom dynamic. However, rather than give guidance, this relationship of equals is a little more lopsided. We'll get into some minor spoilers, but I'll mark each one individually. These will be as vague as possible, but just to be safe... Ugh, are people even reading this if they haven't finished every path? Whatever, this is actually skippable.

    Black Eagles Retainer (Hubert): Similar to Edelgard, goes behind the back of trusted allies in order to get things done. Does not call Edelgard out, but instead goes even further than her in deceit in order to ensure her success. Similar to Edelgard, very confident in his own abilities. Failure is just success waiting to happen. The most successful retainer, but still an enabler.

    Blue Lions Retainer (Dedue): Similar to Dimitri, haunted by the past. Willing to do whatever Dimitri desires. Becomes pretty submissive to the voice in front of him that he believes he owes, following their will without much of his own. Humble about his own strengths to the point that he underestimates his own potential. The most Loyal retainer, but still an enabler.

    Golden Deer Retainer (Hilda): Similar to Claude, sees things as a game in a way. Claude's background makes it so that combat and battle are seen as less serious, and people would retreat if need be. Hilda herself says that dying on the battlefield ain't for her, which sounds similar to a certain unbeatable General. Hiding something. Not quite as close to her Lord, which is just how he is with those around him, despite his smile. The most understanding retainer, but still an enabler.

    For those who didn't look at the spoilers: they're all enablers. Before the time skip, it seems as though these guys just kinda follow their Lord around doing whatever. Aside from the special case of Hilda, who is recruitable, it's unlikely these guys ever change in terms of their relationship to their Lord. To some degree, they kinda have to be. The lords are the big focuses that are advertised as the stars of their class, so the guys who should be taking care of them have to be on the back burner.

    The sideline isn't such a bad place though, as it leads to some cool moments. Each retainer gets a big moment where they go against the wishes of their Lord in routes where they are the enemy. The type of interaction varies in length, but forms an establishing moment of the retainer doing something that seems contradictory to them as a character, at least in routes where they're playable. I can comment about those moments in the comments if needed. There's already enough black boxes to be New York, so I'll try to cut back on spoilers.

    Overall, these retainers don't really do the best of jobs without Byleth there. This is fine considering their ages and skillsets, but it's still noticeable.

    Braces

    While the lords have retainers that generally maintain the status quo and do whatever, they also have characters I like to call "Braces". No, I don't actually, but I am now because this is dental themed, fuck it. We'll call them this because they're a little more forceful when going against their Lord's natural thoughts.

    This is someone that shows regret upon having actually faced their Lord, and also Lorenz Hellman Gloucester. That's right, Felix and Ferdinand go under this category. Despite having alternative ideas that could help them make their lords more well rounded people, it just never happens.

    Their advice comes from a place of wanting to be right rather than a place of genuine help. At least... That's how the House Lords see it. Be it openly hostile like Felix, an overstated rivalry like Ferdinand, or Lorenz trying to reclaim his rightful status, the result is a Lord that does not listen at first. This isn't because they hate their Lords though (aside from maybe Lorenz), but because they actually have the right idea and want what's best for them.

    The beauty of these characters is that while they can be recruited out of house, and they often have some emotional arc when they do, the game shows that these are the right people for the job of retainer. They're not perfect in their ideals, but the clashing and compromise of both them and their House Lord make them better retainers than the ones they started off with.

    Fuck another small row of spoilers.

    Black Eagles Brace (Ferdinand): An earnest believer in the meritocracy that Edelgard promotes. Nobles are nobles not because of birth, but because of continued effort, and everyone should strive to rise. Titles are worthless without effort. Contrasts due to upholding the current status quo of nobility while thinking on the smaller level of how to improve within the current system. Grows to consider Edelgard's system, becomes an equal. Actually able to tell her no to her fucking face.

    Blue Lions Brace (Felix): Understanding of how death of a loved one can change people. Felt the weight of trying to live up to an insane expectation. Still wants to help people, but not under the current glorified rules of knighthood. Also wants intense battles and fights to test his blade. Grows alongside Dimitri to accept responsibility and honor the dead's wishes without becoming slaves to them. Continuously calls him out on his bullshit.

    Golden Deer Brace (Ignatz Lorenz): Shrewd tactics with a vast understanding of Fodlan's culture and how it maintains the countries within. Ironically full of everything Claude needs in order to achieve his goals. Calls Claude out when his Almyra is showing, inadvertantly acting as a radar for when Claude should tone it down to maintain his cover. Similar to Claude, he sees the good in everyone and tries to bring out their best tools in order to strengthen his allies and position, though he's a bit more of a dick about it.

    For those who didn't read the spoilers: Compared to the retainers, whom are the best friends high fiving their Lord behind the back while facing punishment together, these guys are the ones going "Dude, what the fuck. Really? How could you be so reckless?"

    They set the foundation for the Retainer to be a yes-man safely, and if the lord has the approval of both Retainer and Brace, I think that's when they're doing their best.

    Conclusion

    The retainers definitely felt different to me in this game, and I think this is why. I don't think retainers will really go back to the way it used to outside of remakes of older games, but I genuinely enjoy this as well. Merging the identifiable 'retainer' role with the red-green cav dynamic of personalities has made for some truly enjoyable interactions (Lorenz/Hilda and Hubert/Ferdinand) as well as some interesting negative ones that I think are necessary in the story as negative points in a character's writing (Felix/Dedue).

    Who knows though! Maybe the FE 6/7/8 remakes will make Marcus/Seth so badass that we'll be back to getting actual Daddy Jagens, or... Maybe this is the road we have toward Kyle and Forde becoming more prominent in the Sacred Stones remake whereas Seth becomes as neutered as his Heroes self.

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    felibern anyone?

    Posted: 25 Jan 2020 11:02 PM PST

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