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    April 18, 2021

    Fire Emblem Petra and Ashe on Brigid's beaches (commission by Sakudrew!)

    Petra and Ashe on Brigid's beaches (commission by Sakudrew!)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 07:17 AM PDT

    Armored Bridal Bunny Tiki

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 10:40 AM PDT

    Grima does a barrel roll

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 09:40 AM PDT

    [OC] "Milady! Hide behind my person!" -Based on Frederick and Olivia's B support

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 04:27 PM PDT

    it's fe13's anniversary in japan and of course i had to draw something for the occasion!

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 03:30 PM PDT

    [OC] Painted Tiki (adult)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 05:47 PM PDT

    Modern AU

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 06:48 PM PDT

    A friend of mine told me that my Tiki drawing had "jojo-energy"... so I made some adjustments. Hope you enjoy

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 12:50 PM PDT

    Thracia 776 4Koma Manga Translation

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 06:56 AM PDT

    Finally finished my first play and decided to draw Dimitri, inspired by the painting "Fallen Angel"

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 07:54 AM PDT

    Odin looking kinda fine (Mild Owainsev)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 03:05 AM PDT

    Headpat Faye (OC)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 12:41 PM PDT

    Grado's Army - FE 8 map sprites in FE Fates' style (Bonus)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 07:13 AM PDT

    I got my request done from Mythkas, I really like how it turned out

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 01:34 PM PDT

    (OC) The Professor

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 07:23 AM PDT

    A deep dive into Edelgard and Dimitri's argument in AM

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 06:51 PM PDT

    Introduction

    The infamous discussion between Dimitri and Edelgard near the end of AM is where Dimitri and Edelgard discuss and argue their views on the justification of the war. Often times, it is said that Dimitri's arguments are correct because he has gone through his redemption and is the hero of the story. I believe that just because Dimitri is the protagonist, it doesn't mean his argument against the antagonist is correct and AM subverts this idea of the protagonist refuting the antagonist by having the reverse happen. Now bare in mind just because Edelgard may have had the stronger arguments, this doesn't necessarily mean she is right and Dimitri is wrong. It mostly means she's a better debater and more rational than him.

    Costs of war

    Dimitri starts off by asking why Edelgard started the war and she answers that more lives are saved in the end. Dimitri is unconvinced so she tells him that waiting longer will result in more deaths which is easy to see because either a war is inevitable in which case waging it now means a peaceful future earlier or the system perpetuates for eternity and eventually surpasses the victims of war. Dimitri doesn't properly refute this argument and simply accuses Edelgard of being deaf to the victims of the war even though she earlier said she weighed their concerns.

    Dimitri: I will get straight to the point. Why did you start this war? There had to be a way to change things in your territory without the need for so many senseless casualties.

    Edelgard: It may be hard to believe, but this is the way that leads to the fewest casualties in the end. Don't you see?

    Dimitri: How could I? Countless people have already lost their lives in this conflict.

    Edelgard: The longer we took to revolt, the more victims this crooked world would have claimed. I weighed the victims of war against the victims of the world as it is now, and I chose the former. I believe that I have chosen the best path, the only path.

    Dimitri: Even after seeing the faces of those who have suffered the ravages of war, you would still force them to throw their lives away for the future? You are obsessively devoted to this war and deaf to the screams of its victims. You cannot change the cycle of the strong dominating the weak with a method like that.

    Strong dominating the weak

    Anyway, Dimitri acknowledges that the current system in place is where the strong dominate the weak but that Edelgard's methods can't change this problematic aspect. Edelgard responds by claiming she intends to stop the cycle of the strong dominating the weak and it's exactly why she started the war in the first place, to give the weak a chance to become strong. Dimitri's response is quite bizarre, he claims Edelgard is trying to force her beliefs instead of refuting her beliefs. Him claiming people are weaker than Edelgard's belief in their strength shows he's resigned to the belief that most people are inherently weak and empowering them won't work. Dimitri says that Edelgard crushing the Church will destroy people's faith but Edelgard refutes him by telling him that once they realize the Church's faith is a sham, their faith will shatter all the same. Dimitri's tries to claim she can't see from the perspective of the weak because she's strong yet it was her when she was truly weak when she came up with her resolve and plan to change Fodlan this way.

    Dimitri: Even after seeing the faces of those who have suffered the ravages of war, you would still force them to throw their lives away for the future? You are obsessively devoted to this war and deaf to the screams of its victims. You cannot change the cycle of the strong dominating the weak with a method like that.

    Edelgard: You're wrong. That very cycle is exactly what I have devoted my life and my power to destroying. If after all of this you believe the weak will still be weak, that is only because they are too used to relying on others instead of on themselves.

    Dimitri: Yes. Perhaps someone as strong as you are can claim something like that. But you cannot force that belief onto others. People aren't as strong as you think they are. There are those who cannot live without their faith...and those who cannot go on once they have lost their reason for living. Your path will not be able to save them. It is the path of the strong, and so, it could only benefit the strong.

    Edelgard: Heh, so you consider me strong, do you? Even if one clings to their faith, the goddess will never answer them. Countless souls will be lost that way. Living without purpose. And I can be counted among those who have died that way as well. But that's why I must change this world, on behalf of the silent and weak!

    Dimitri attacks Edelgard's character

    Now Dimitri accuses Edelgard of trying to turn herself into a goddess which is incorrect considering she never alludes to her having any type of divine right or any claims about divine justice. This isn't even an argument, it is slander. If anything, Dimitri claims that sins can't be washed away by flames. Isn't that passing divine judgement on people with sins and hence turning himself into a god?

    Gilbert: If you believe the legends, this valley is evidence of the goddess's judgement...passed on humanity for its corruption. The forest that once covered the surrounding area was burnt to ash by a pillar of light that descended from the heavens. That legend fueled belief in a place of torment between our world and the next...where one's sins are purified in the cleansing flames.

    Dimitri: Nonsense. Sins are not so easily washed away.

    Furthermore, Dimitri also accuses Edelgard of being self-righteous for pushing her own sense of justice on others. But isn't that exactly what all rulers end up doing by necessity? Is Dimitri an anarchist all of a sudden or is he just coming up with ad hominem attacks against Edelgard because he can't compete with her rationally? Anyway, despite Dimitri's baseless attacks, Edelgard avoids going off the tangent to prove her innocence because it's not really needed, as at the end of the day, it doesn't change the fact people are suffering and that change needs to come from somewhere ASAP. The fact Edelgard is able to get the argument back on track unlike Dimitri who tried to derail it shows her superior debating skill.

    Dimitri: And do you intend to become a goddess yourself? Will you steal the power to take action from the broken-hearted masses you claim to defend? The ones who can truly change the way of the world are not the rulers, but the people. Pushing your own sense of justice and your own ideals onto even one other person is no more than self-righteousness.

    Edelgard: Maybe it is self-righteousness, but it doesn't matter. Someone has to take action and put a stop to this world's endless, blood-stained misery!

    People should rise up

    Earlier Dimitri was claiming that the war was bad because it causes too much human suffering but now he's claiming if people were to rise up and revolt, the war would be just, despite there probably being far more human suffering and the chances of failure in a revolt by commoners. Dimitri completely changing his argument at the end by refuting his argument in the beginning is not a good look. Edelgard responded by saying that Dimitri simply doesn't understand the poor which implies Dimitri's belief that the poor can just rise up and change the system is a rather naïve belief. The game supports Edelgard's point that a revolt from the masses wasn't going to materialize and be successful anyway as Dimitri himself would probably help in suppressing them as shown with him fighting Lord Lonato as well as the Duscur rebels.

    Furthermore, Edelgard calling Dimitri highborn is her calling him out for learning that people will reach out to others and help them because the only reason people were willing to help Dimitri out was because he was the crown prince and was lucky enough to have Byleth which is not something the average person has. Thus his example can not be used as generalized evidence for the downtrodden successfully rising up to the challenge.

    Dimitri: Do you not believe in the power of people to join together and rise up? Humans are weak creatures. But they are also creatures who help each other, support each other, and together, find the right path. I have learned that humans are capable of all that from the professor...and from everyone in my life.

    Edelgard: I doubt a highborn person like yourself could know how the poor feel or what motivates them. (Note: Originally thought to have been a mistranslation, the wiki wrote down "Someone who was fortunate enough like you to have those things, will never understand those of us who don't have those things" as a substitute. However, after discussing the context of the original terms used in the Japanese script, it turns out that the localisation was closer than was initially thought.)

    Conclusion

    Three Houses, in particular AM, ends up subverting the idea of the protagonist always being right compared to the antagonist. Furthermore, Three Houses subverts the idea that the female lord is more naïve/emotional than the male one. While I may have been quite harsh on Dimitri, this is not an attack on his quality as a character as his overtly emotional responses and lack of rational thinking is very consistent with how his character was depicted, more so than if it was Edelgard giving the bad arguments just to make the protagonist look better as is usually the case in most stories. This is one of the reasons why I find Dimitri to be a very strongly written character and AM to be an overall good story because he's allowed to be wrong, even more so than Edelgard herself.

    Lastly, Edelgard's interests include debating historical viewpoints and strategy, unlike Dimitri who is more interested in training and physical labor so he never stood a chance against her in a debate and instead should have challenged her to a 1 VS 1.

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    I got the new Byleth Amino recently, and I thought I could share it with you guys.

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 03:27 PM PDT

    Why does Hubert look so scary?

    Posted: 17 Apr 2021 09:53 PM PDT

    So I tried making Three Houses Characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic...And here are the results.

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 06:42 PM PDT

    Same Name Slam #9: Battle of the Claudes (FE4!Claud vs FE3H!Claude)

    Posted: 18 Apr 2021 06:27 AM PDT

    Welcome back to the Same Name Slam, the battle to see which character earns the right to be called by their name versus the other characters with the same or similar name. Last time on the Same Name Slam, we had the Battle of the Robins. The scoring was as follows:

    In second place with 10 points was Robin!

    And in first place with 15 points was Tobin!

    Congratulations to Tobin! He has earned the title of being the best Robin of Fire Emblem.

    More detail on scoring can be found in this comment here.

    On today's episode, we have the Battle of the Claudes!

    First off, the high priest from Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, Claud! Claude is the Duke of Edda who bears major Bragi blood; through this, he wields the Valkyrie Staff. He joins Sigurd's army in Chapter 4 following a pilgrimage to the Tower of Bragi to hear from his ancestor.

    Secondly is the noble from Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Claude! Claude is the grandson of Duke Riegan and heir apparent to succeed his grandfather as leader of the Leicester Alliance. He is the leader of the Golden Deer house at the Academy and serves as the lord of the Verdant Wind route alongside Byleth.

    Just to review, these are the rules:

    1. Do not be mean to other users; be nice and avoid the ad hominem.

    2. Any argument that isn't sexually explicit is allowed. As LaqOfInterest said, "There are no stupid arguments." Throw down whatever you have! (Yes, ad hominem towards the characters themselves is allowed.)

    3. Mark your spoilers.

    And just as a reminder, each round lasts 24 hours, and you have to submit a parent-level comment to "vote." Higher effort comments earn 2 points each, while lower effort comments earn 1 point each. Now that the post is done, let's get rolling!

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